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Tech News: 2023-02[edit]

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Recent changes

  • You can use tags to filter edits in the recent changes feed or on your watchlist. You can now use tags to filter out edits you don't want to see. Previously you could only use tags to focus on the edits with those tags. [1]
  • Special:WhatLinksHere shows all pages that link to a specific page. There is now a prototype for how to sort those pages alphabetically. You can see the discussion in the Phabricator ticket.
  • You can now use the thanks function on your watchlist and the user contribution page. [2]
  • A wiki page can be moved to give it a new name. You can now get a dropdown menu with common reasons when you move a page. This is so you don't have to write the explanation every time. [3]
  • Matrix is a chat tool. You can now use matrix: to create Matrix links on wiki pages. [4]
  • You can filter out translations when you look at the recent changes on multilingual wikis. This didn't hide translation pages. You can now also hide subpages which are translation pages. [5]

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  • Realtime preview for wikitext is a tool which lets editors preview the page when they edit wikitext. It will be enabled for all users of the 2010 wikitext editor. You will find it in the editor toolbar.
  • Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 10 January at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on 12 January at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
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Tech News: 2023-03[edit]

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Problems

  • The URLs in "prev" links on page history now contain diff=prev&oldid=[revision ID] in place of diff=[revision ID]&oldid=[revision ID]. This is to fix a problem with links pointing to incorrect diffs when history was filtered by a tag. Some user scripts may break as a result of this change. [6]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 January. It will be on all wikis from 19 January (calendar).
  • Some changes to the appearance of talk pages have only been available on Talk: and User talk: namespaces. These will be extended to other talk namespaces, such as Commons talk:. They will continue to be unavailable in non-talk namespaces, including Commons: pages (e.g., at the Village Pump). You can change your preferences (beta feature). [7]
  • On Wikisources, when an image is zoomed or panned in the Page: namespace, the same zoom and pan settings will be remembered for all Page: namespace pages that are linked to a particular Index: namespace page. [8]
  • The Vector 2022 skin will become the default for the English Wikipedia desktop users. The change will take place on January 18 at 15:00 UTC. Learn more.

Future changes

  • The 2023 edition of the Community Wishlist Survey, which invites contributors to make technical proposals and vote for tools and improvements, starts next week on 23 January 2023 at 18:00 UTC. You can start drafting your proposals in the CWS sandbox.

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Tech News: 2023-04[edit]

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  • Last week, for ~15 minutes, all wikis were unreachable for logged-in users and non-cached pages. This was caused by a timing issue. [9]

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 January. It will be on all wikis from 26 January (calendar).
  • If you have the Beta Feature for DiscussionTools enabled, the appearance of talk pages will add more information about discussion activity. [10][11]
  • The 2023 edition of the Community Wishlist Survey (CWS), which invites contributors to make technical proposals and vote for tools and improvements, starts on Monday 23 January 2023 at 18:00 UTC.

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Tech News: 2023-05[edit]

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Problems

  • Last week, for ~15 minutes, some users were unable to log in or edit pages. This was caused by a problem with session storage. [12]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 February. It will be on all wikis from 2 February (calendar).

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  • Wikis that use localized numbering schemes for references need to add new CSS. This will help to show citation numbers the same way in all reading and editing modes. If your wiki would prefer to do it yourselves, please see the details and example CSS to copy from, and also add your wiki to the list. Otherwise, the developers will directly help out starting the week of February 5.

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Tech News: 2023-06[edit]

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Recent changes

  • In the Vector 2022 skin, logged-out users using the full-width toggle will be able to see the setting of their choice even after refreshing pages or opening new ones. This only applies to wikis where Vector 2022 is the default. [13]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 February. It will be on all wikis from 9 February (calendar).
  • Previously, we announced when some wikis would be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. These switches will not be announced any more, as the read-only time has become non-significant. Switches will continue to happen at 7AM UTC on Tuesdays and Thursdays. [14]
  • Across all the wikis, in the Vector 2022 skin, logged-in users will see the page-related links such as "What links here" in a new side menu. It will be displayed on the other side of the screen. This change had previously been made on Czech, English, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. [15]
  • Community Wishlist Survey 2023 will stop receiving new proposals on Monday, 6 February 2023, at 18:00 UTC. Proposers should complete any edits by then, to give time for translations and review. Voting will begin on Friday, 10 February.

Future changes

  • Gadgets and user scripts will be changing to load on desktop and mobile sites. Previously they would only load on the desktop site. It is recommended that wiki administrators audit the gadget definitions prior to this change, and add skins=… for any gadgets which should not load on mobile. More details are available.

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Tech News: 2023-07[edit]

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Problems

  • On wikis where patrolled edits are enabled, changes made to the mentor list by autopatrolled mentors are not correctly marked as patrolled. It will be fixed later this week. [16]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 February. It will be on all wikis from 16 February (calendar).
  • The Reply tool and other parts of DiscussionTools will be deployed for all editors using the mobile site. You can read more about this decision. [17]

Future changes

  • All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 1. This is planned for 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [18][19][20]

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Tech News: 2023-08[edit]

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Problems

  • Last week, during planned maintenance of Cloud Services, unforeseen complications forced the team to turn off all tools for 2–3 hours to prevent data corruption. Work is ongoing to prevent similar problems in the future. [21]

Changes later this week

Future changes

  • All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 1. This is planned for 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [22][23][24]

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:55, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Categories[edit]

Please do not include the Category:People by name manually. It will be set automatically via the wikidata infobox. Also the category Men / Women by name or by country. Thank you! NeverDoING (talk) 13:16, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

NeverDoING, read and taken into account. it seems that "Cat-a-lot" does not recognize the categorizations made by "templates" and puts again the item in the same category. I didn't know that, and I'll be more careful next time. Regards
JotaCartas (talk) 04:30, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
NeverDoING, please enlighten me. If a person article as no "Wikidata Infobox" or is in "Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no item" can/must be placed manually in the Categories: "People by name", "Men/Women by name", "Men/Women in Portugal by name" ? Thanks
JotaCartas (talk) 22:27, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes NeverDoING (talk) 16:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thanks 👍 JotaCartas (talk) 16:28, 1 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Categories 2[edit]

And please do not place a dot as a sorting key before the names. --Rudolph Buch (talk) 14:46, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Rudolph Buch, read and taken into account; I reverted most of my editions and will revert all very soon. Thanks JotaCartas (talk) 21:07, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-09[edit]

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Problems

  • Last week, in some areas of the world, there were problems with loading pages for 20 minutes and saving edits for 55 minutes. These issues were caused by a problem with our caching servers due to unforseen events during a routine maintenance task. [25][26]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 March. It will be on all wikis from 2 March (calendar).
  • All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 1. This is planned for 14:00 UTC. [27]

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Very misleading edit summary[edit]

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Asher_Sasho-Levy&curid=129181082&diff=737493025&oldid=737186048: If you make edit summaries that are this unrelated to the actual edit, they are literally worse than no edit summary at all. - Jmabel ! talk 16:24, 3 March 2023 (UTC) (no need to ping my talk page, I'll be watching here.)Reply[reply]

Read and taken into account. I will be more careful in the future JotaCartas (talk) 19:48, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-10[edit]

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Recent changes

  • The Community Wishlist Survey 2023 edition has been concluded. Community Tech has published the results of the survey and will provide an update on what is next in April 2023.
  • On wikis which use LanguageConverter to handle multiple writing systems, articles which used custom conversion rules in the wikitext (primarily on Chinese Wikipedia) would have these rules applied inconsistently in the table of contents, especially in the Vector 2022 skin. This has now been fixed. [28]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 March. It will be on all wikis from 9 March (calendar).
  • A search system has been added to the Preferences screen. This will let you find different options more easily. Making it work on mobile devices will happen soon. [29]

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Tech News: 2023-11[edit]

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 March. It will be on all wikis from 16 March (calendar).
  • Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" (Chavacano de Zamboanga Wikipedia, Min Dong Chinese Wikipedia, Chechen Wikipedia, Cebuano Wikipedia, Chamorro Wikipedia, Cherokee Wikipedia, Cheyenne Wikipedia, Central Kurdish Wikipedia, Corsican Wikipedia, Kashubian Wikipedia, Church Slavic Wikipedia, Chuvash Wikipedia, Welsh Wikipedia, Italian Wikipedia). This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally. [30][31]

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Tech News: 2023-12[edit]

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Problems

  • Last week, some users experienced issues loading image thumbnails. This was due to incorrectly cached images. [32]

Changes later this week

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Tech News: 2023-13[edit]

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Recent changes

  • The AbuseFilter condition limit was increased from 1000 to 2000. [34]
  • Some Global AbuseFilter actions will no longer apply to local projects. [35]
  • Desktop users are now able to subscribe to talk pages by clicking on the Subscribe link in the Tools menu. If you subscribe to a talk page, you receive notifications when new topics are started on that talk page. This is separate from putting the page on your watchlist or subscribing to a single discussion. [36]

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 March. It will be on all wikis from 30 March (calendar).

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Tech News: 2023-14[edit]

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Recent changes

  • The system for automatically creating categories for the Babel extension has had several important changes and fixes. One of them allows you to insert templates for automatic category descriptions on creation, allowing you to categorize the new categories. [39][40][41][42][43]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 April. It will be on all wikis from 6 April (calendar).
  • Some older Web browsers will stop being able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis from this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can try to upgrade to a newer version. [44]
  • The deprecated jquery.hoverIntent module has been removed. This module could be used by gadgets and user scripts, to create an artificial delay in how JavaScript responds to a hover event. Gadgets and user scripts should now use jQuery hover() or on() instead. Examples can be found in the migration guide. [45]
  • Some of the links in Special:SpecialPages will be re-arranged. There will be a clearer separation between links that relate to all users, and links related to your own user account. [46]
  • You will be able to hide the Reply button in archived discussion pages with a new __ARCHIVEDTALK__ magic word. There will also be a new .mw-archivedtalk CSS class for hiding the Reply button in individual sections on a page. [47][48][49]

Future changes

  • The Vega software that creates data visualizations in pages, such as graphs, will be upgraded to the newest version in the future. Graphs that still use the very old version 1.5 syntax may stop working properly. Most existing uses have been found and updated, but you can help to check, and to update any local documentation. Examples of how to find and fix these graphs are available.

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Fusão de categorias[edit]

Talvez me possa ajudar. É necessário fundir as categorias "Category:João Rosa" e "Category:João Anastácio Rosa Júnior" para depois fundir os respetivos itens no Wikidata, mas eu não sei os procedimentos. Joao4669 (talk) 17:18, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

OK, eu posso faze-lo. De-me 30 minutos JotaCartas (talk) 17:23, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Est+a feito, fundi tambem na wikidata, abraço JotaCartas (talk) 17:36, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Surnames[edit]

Hi JotaCartas,

can I ask you why are you adding "Category:Surnames" to categories that already have "Category:Italian-language surnames"? Ivanbranco (talk) 07:57, 9 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

hi, I'm just following the instructions on the top of Category:Surnames: "This category gathers all sub-categories related to its parent category in a non-hierarchical list, including those that would normally only be found via intermediate sub-categories.". it has about 119,390 members total. I do not see any reason to left "italian-language surnames" out of this, salute JotaCartas (talk) 11:32, 9 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, to explain it better. I don't care/mind that the articles you reversed are put in "Category:Surnames". But, as I do many automatic edits with "batch" tools, it is possible that I put them back in "Surnames" without realizing that I am reversing your edition. That will not be my intention. Saluti JotaCartas (talk) 16:11, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Santo António de Diogo de Contreiras[edit]

Bom dia Verifiquei que foi o responsável por atribuir o domínio público à imagem de Santo António, de Diogo de Contreiras. Queria apenas confirmar consigo se a licença é mesmo de domínio público, já que gostaria de utilizar essa imagem para outros fins.

Com os melhores cumprimentos Antiquariaa (talk) 11:08, 9 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

OK, aqui vai. Uma foto "normal/simples" de uma obra de 1500 estará sempre em "Domínio Público", a não ser que inclua qualquer trabalho artístico do fotografo actual — (ou esteja incluída numa base de dados organizada que possa reclamar os "direitos de autor") — que não me parece o caso. Assim na minha opinião a foto em questão está no "Dominio público", mas não tenho autoridade para defenir estas questões, embora não me pareça que venha um familiar do Diogo Contreiras reclamar de Direitos da autor 😊 (estou a brincar), abraço JotaCartas (talk) 16:24, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-15[edit]

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Problems

  • There was a problem with all types of CentralNotice banners still being shown to logged-in users even if they had turned off specific banner types. This has now been fixed. [52]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 April. It will be on all wikis from 13 April (calendar).
  • Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" (Moroccan Arabic Wikipedia, Danish Wikipedia, Dinka Wikipedia, Lower Sorbian Wikipedia, Ewe Wikipedia, Greek Wikipedia, Emiliano-Romagnolo Wikipedia, Esperanto Wikipedia, Estonian Wikipedia, Basque Wikipedia, Extremaduran Wikipedia, Tumbuka Wikipedia, Fulah Wikipedia, Finnish Wikipedia, Võro Wikipedia, Fijian Wikipedia, Faroese Wikipedia, Arpitan Wikipedia, Northern Frisian Wikipedia, Friulian Wikipedia, Irish Wikipedia, Guianan Creole Wikipedia, Scottish Gaelic Wikipedia, Galician Wikipedia, Gilaki Wikipedia, Guarani Wikipedia, Goan Konkani Wikipedia, Gothic Wikipedia, Gujarati Wikipedia, Manx Wikipedia). This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally. [53][54]

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Moving categories[edit]

Hi, please can you leave redirects when you move categories? Then external links to the old category names will still work. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 09:32, 15 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-16[edit]

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  • At Wikimedia Commons, some thumbnails have not been getting replaced correctly after a new version of the image is uploaded. This should be fixed later this week. [58][59]
  • For the last few weeks, some external tools had inconsistent problems with logging-in with OAuth. This has now been fixed. [60]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 April. It will be on all wikis from 20 April (calendar).

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Category:De (Germanic surname particle)[edit]

Please could you kindly tell me why you added the above category to Category:De Pulteney (surname)? De Pulteney is an Old English name, derived from Old French meaning "of", dating from the 11th century Noman invasion, when Anglo Normans were expected to invent a surname for themselves. At that time, many people named their family after their home town or village, or after their lands if they were rich. In that context in the 11th century, "de" was, and still is, French. The first known use of the Anglo-Norman name De Pulteney was in Leicestershire, England. De Pulteney was never a Saxon name because the Saxon "der" meant "the", whereas in "De Pulteney" it means "of" because the family came from Poultney. All the English Norman names, beginning "de", have the Old French origin. A general rule for very old English surnames beginning "de" is, if it means "of (a place)" it's Old French. Storye book (talk) 21:06, 23 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Storye book, first of all I'm not an expert linguist. I Sorted over 3,000 surname particles, and a lot of "De's". As there are is "De Latin" and "De Germanic", I used the country of origin for the classification (eg France -> Latin; England->Germanic, etc.).
I requested some help here but I got no real answers.
I made a lot of mistakes, but since then I reactivated the "De (surname particle)" category, where I started to classify all "DE's". I believe you are right, and please revert my wrong edits. Thanks and best regards. JotaCartas (talk) 21:48, 23 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. However, the Wikidata infobox for "De" has got it right, because it gives the origin as many languages, including French. So what we need to do is to remove "Germanic" from the category name, to make it Category:De (surname particle) - that category already exists, anyway. Hope that helps. Storye book (talk) 08:12, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tech News: 2023-17[edit]

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Problems

  • Due to security issues with the Graph extension, graphs have been disabled in all Wikimedia projects. Wikimedia Foundation teams are working to respond to these vulnerabilities. [62]
  • For a few days, it was not possible to save some kinds of edits on the mobile version of a wiki. This has been fixed. [63][64][65]

Changes later this week

  • All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on April 26. This is planned for 14:00 UTC. [66]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 April. It will be on all wikis from 27 April (calendar).

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Tech News: 2023-18[edit]

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Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 May. It will be on all wikis from 4 May (calendar).

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Tech News: 2023-19[edit]

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Recent changes

  • Last week, Community Tech released the first update for providing better diffs, the #1 request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. This update adds legends and tooltips to inline diffs so that users unfamiliar with the blue and yellow highlights can better understand the type of edits made.
  • When you close an image that is displayed via MediaViewer, it will now return to the wiki page instead of going back in your browser history. This feature request was voted #65 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [72]
  • The SyntaxHighlight extension now supports wikitext as a selected language. Old alternatives that were used to highlight wikitext, such as html5, moin, and html+handlebars, can now be replaced. [73]
  • Preloading text to new pages/sections now supports preloading from localized MediaWiki interface messages. Here is an example at the Czech Wikipedia that uses preload=MediaWiki:July. [74]

Problems

  • Graph Extension update: Foundation developers have completed upgrading the visualization software to Vega5. Existing community graphs based on Vega2 are no longer compatible. Communities need to update local graphs and templates, and shared lua modules like de:Modul:Graph. The Vega Porting guide provides the most comprehensive detail on migration from Vega2 and here is an example migration. Vega5 has currently just been enabled on mediawiki.org to provide a test environment for communities. [75]

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  • Citations that are automatically generated based on ISBN are currently broken. This affects citations made with the VisualEditor Automatic tab, and the use of the citoid API in gadgets and user scripts. Work is ongoing to restore this feature. [81]

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  • An improved impact module will be available at Wikipedias. The impact module is a feature available to newcomers at their personal homepage. It will show their number of edits, how many readers their edited pages have, how many thanks they have received and similar things. It is also accessible by accessing Special:Impact. [85]
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  • For a few days earlier this month, the "Add interlanguage link" item in the Tools menu did not work properly. This has now been fixed. [88]

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Category:Surnames (flat list)[edit]

Was there any discussion before you got rid of this? It's not clear to me that Category:Surnames is, itself, a flat list: I see several subcats right at the beginning. Also, do you have a plan for the large number of subcats that are now in this orphaned category? - Jmabel ! talk 18:44, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Really... what to say. Of course you're right, but it could be that my first mistake was at the beginning when I created the category "Surnames (flat list)" without any consensus. It was useful for me to populate the "Surnames" category (about 80,000 members), but no one else was using it, and if I stop updating it, will run out of data very quickly. I'll stop for now what I was doing. I will respond again (very soon) with updated numbers of what is happening with the categories in question. Best regards JotaCartas (talk) 20:16, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Stopped. At the moment there are abou 6.000 surnames in the old ̩"Surnames (flat list)" that are not in the "Surnames" category). But all of them are under the Category "Surnames by language" and "Surnames by ethnicity". Please see ̪PSID 25027632 and PSID 25027633. --JotaCartas (talk) 20:56, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. It does seem to me we need a flat list, and that Category:Surnames isn't going to be it, given that it has subcats that aren't individual surnames. - Jmabel ! talk 21:39, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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  • Previously, clicking on someone else's link to Recent Changes with filters applied within the URL could unintentionally change your preference for "Group results by page". This has now been fixed. [91]

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  • The content attribution tools Who Wrote That?, XTools Authorship, and XTools Blame now support the Dutch, German, Hungarian, Indonesian, Japanese, Polish and Portuguese Wikipedias. This was the #7 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [94]
  • The Search Preview panel has been deployed on four Wikipedias (Catalan, Dutch, Hungarian and Norwegian). The panel will show an image related to the article (if existing), the top sections of the article, related images (coming from MediaSearch on Commons), and eventually the sister projects associated with the article. [95]
  • The RealMe extension now allows administrators to verify URLs for any page, for Mastodon and similar software. [96]
  • The default project license has been officially upgraded to CC BY-SA 4.0. The software interface messages have been updated. Communities should feel free to start updating any mentions of the old CC BY-SA 3.0 licensing within policies and related documentation pages. [97]

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Ukrainian surnames that ends with -enko[edit]

HI! I have information for you. Please remember that all surnames that end in -enko are either Ukrainian or of Ukrainian origin. And not Russian at all. Thank you for your attention, I hope for constructive work. The center of Kievan Rus was Kyiv, not Moscow. Good luck. PS. surnames can be an exception to this - Category:Guzenko (surname), Category:Ageyenko (surname), Category:Gerasimenko (surname) etc. Бучач-Львів (talk) 11:32, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Бучач-Львів. Firstː Thank you for your corrections. Secondː I belive you are wright and I have made some mistakes ... but, the classification I have made was based in en:Category:Russian-language surnames and/or in the correspondente item in wikidata (with the help of some batch tools). I will correct the refereed entries in order to prevent future unintentional errors (maybe you can also correct in enːwikipwdia and wikidata). bests regards JotaCartas (talk) 12:28, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

but... in general, this is not such a simple topic, so I’ll ask you not to refrain from editing yet (sorry, your page doesn’t say anything about the level of proficiency in Ukrainian, Belarusian and Russian). Thanks --Бучач-Львів (talk) 12:10, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi again Бучач-Львів. Here is a list of Ukrainian surnames that are classified also as Russian surnames in wikidata and others wuikipedias. I will be very grateful if you can check the items and correct the wrong cases. Thanks again and best regards JotaCartas (talk) 13:00, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

unfortunately we live in a world where there is a lot of untruth... for many people in the world everything. what used to be Soviet is Russian ... even when it is obvious stupidity ... --Бучач-Львів (talk) 13:01, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Another detail is that indeed many Russian surnames are very similar to Ukrainian ones, because they come from them. F. e. Category:Guzenko (surname), Category:Ageyenko (surname), Category:Gerasimenko (surname)... Ukrainian originals - Category:Huzenko (surname), Category:Aheienko (surname) (or Aheyenko), Category:Herasymenko (surname). --Бучач-Львів (talk) 13:05, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Indeed I understand this is a difficult topic (as you said, I have no special proficiency in the matter). So, I will avoid classifying ukrainian surnames in the future, kind regards JotaCartas (talk) 13:15, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Another problem is transliteration from Russian. Often it does not reflect the real sound of Russian surnames. Of those methods that I know, it displays quite well the difference between Ukrainian and Russian languages, there is their transliteration in the Polish alphabet. But even this method does not always convey the difference ... --Бучач-Львів (talk) 13:12, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Japanese surnames[edit]

Hello! Please fix your mistakes. You added another category to Japanese surnames... Russian surnames (f.e. Category:Uebayashi (surname)... I count on your responsibility. I have already corrected some of your mistakes, but, unfortunately, I see that there are too many of them. Good luck. Бучач-Львів (talk) 06:46, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, Errors fixed. The reason of my mistake was — the "transliteration language" of the related wikidata item was "Russian".
I think that now all errors are reversed, but I will look to see if I made other mistakes due to the explanation I gave above. Thanks JotaCartas (talk) 08:27, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello again Бучач-Львів. After removing about 715 surnames (also in ̩Japanese-language surnames), I searched in all other languages (besides Japanese) and I removed 12 more surnames misclassified under "Russian". I believe that all my mistakes have been reversed. thank you again. JotaCartas (talk) 10:01, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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  • Flame graphs are now available in WikimediaDebug. [102][103]

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  • The Action API modules and Special:LinkSearch will now add a trailing / to all prop=extlinks responses for bare domains. This is part of the work to remove duplication in the externallinks database table. [106]

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  • The review form of the Flagged Revisions extension now uses the standardized user interface components. [113]

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  • The Section-level Image Suggestions feature has been deployed on seven Wikipedias (Portuguese, Russian, Indonesian, Catalan, Hungarian, Finnish and Norwegian Bokmål). The feature recommends images for articles on contributors' watchlists that are a good match for individual sections of those articles.
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  • Special:BlockedExternalDomains is a new tool for administrators to help fight spam. It provides a clearer interface for blocking plain domains (and their subdomains), is more easily searchable, and is faster for the software to process for each edit on the wiki. It does not support regex (for complex cases), nor URL path-matching, nor the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist, but otherwise it replaces most of the functionalities of the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. There is a Python script to help migrate all simple domains into this tool, and more feature details, within the tool's documentation. It is available at all wikis except for Meta-wiki, Commons, and Wikidata. [118]
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